Thursday, September 14, 2006

DEVELOPER CRIES FOUL

The IT Town council met for their September 12th meeting and when it got time to hear the Quasi Judicial project for the Downtown LLC group (Harrell, Moser, Edwards)on the 16 conditions they wanted to have amended they were met with the Lawyer Mr.Goodwin. He stated that he represented his clients and was officially asking that Councilmember Dan Schallenkamp recuse himself due to the fact they believed that an unbiased decision could not be reached by Mr. Schallenkamp thus denying his clients of their due rights in this process????? Mr. Schallenkamp and his lawyer stated that they had not had time to review the so called evidence against him and at this point insisted he be given ample opportunity to review the binder they had put together. The council voted unanomously to table the downtown project for another month so as to give the councilmember ample time to respond to the charge. That didn't sit well with the Mr. Goodwin or Mr. Harrell who insisted on the matter being heard in 2 weeks due to the fact his clients had waited 2 years to get started...again the council voted unanomously to give 30 days(personal comment OH BOO HOO!!!) as if another 2 weeks will kill them.
Suffice it to say I believe their case to be very weak and this is just an example of bullying the council into actions they may or may not want to take.

When this project was approved by the previous council it was done so in what many believe to have been done in haste so as to get them approved. In that process the previous council attached 44 different conditions to the project. Supposedly, all have to be achieved prior to the project getting started or completed. The petitioner has the ability to come back before council to ask for changes to the conditions, though the council can vote to not change anything, vote to change some or all the requests being presented. A note that should be made is that the there was very little opposition by the members of the Downtown project when these conditions were placed. The current council does not have the ability to establish tougher, restrictive, or more conditions. They can vote to keep it the same or to make it easier on the developer.
So what does this all mean???? It means that developers that feel they are not getting a break (their opinion) can apparently ask an elected official to recuse themselves from the proceedings...if they feel the person in question can't make an unbiased decision. If that person refuses to recuse themselves then the remaining council gets to vote on this topic....this is a change from the previous law that basically stated you only had a conflict of interest if there was a financial gain in the decision.
If they succeed in getting Mr. Schallenkamp recused this could have far reaching affects everywhere in the state. A lot of people run for office because they believe that they can make a difference. A long the way whatever topic got them started they were passionate about and that kept them fired up. Mr. Schallenkamp from everything I have ever heard opposed that downtown project primarily for 2 reasons. The density of the residence (604 apartments, condos, townhomes)on part of that 47 acre parcel. I believe it topped out at something like 20 per acre...very high density. That led to the 2nd part the safety issue. Putting all those people in that small of an area onto Indian Trail road which is overcrowded as it is without adding anyone to the mix. Funny thing though...Mr. Schallenkamp is not able to change the density of this project. In fact he represents 1/5th of the vote...his vote alone won't send the LLC into financial ruin. The rest of the council could vote for the condition leaving Mr. Schallenkamp all by himself??? This action also takes away the ability to speak out against any developer without possible repurcussion later. In order to be a candidate you won't be able to have an opinion of any kind or even be able to read a newspaper because that might make you opinionated.
Worse yet, it will take the power of the people out of their hands. Mr. Schallenkamp was elected for a number of reasons...one was his stance on high density housing. The people of IT that cared enough to vote, thought he was right for the job after the previous 4 years of uncontrolled growth. Mrs. Howe ran on a very similar platform...so whats next get her too??? Apparently, the developers and their interests aren't interested in fair play as much as having the odds in their favor. I hope the voting public pays attention to what is happening and reacts accordingly...any comments????

7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh Lee, Lee, Lee…
You poor thing, has Dan been talking to you again?

Questions:
Why in the world would a developer (any developer) waste his time and money (you know how expensive lawyers are, if not ask Dan) on something that was said at a time when Danny boy was a private citizen. I would think that any lawyer in the world would tell the developer (any developer) to go get a life! I BET you something has happened after the election, and Dannie’s mouth got him in trouble---Don’t You! You know how much he likes to talk, you’ve been to the meetings, he goes on and on and on. Ask Him! Could others be involved? Council members are to give everyone standing before them a fair hearing, not pre-judgment.

We’ve all read in the papers how it was an AMBUSH on the developer’s part. AMBUSH!!, an AMBUSH is when someone is totally surprised by an attack. How in the world did DANNY know to have his lawyer there? Do you think he may have known what was coming? Does DANNY travel with a lawyer to all town meetings? If so that must get really expensive. DANNY does not strike me as the type who would fork over the $fees$ a lawyer must charge. Do you think he’s getting help paying said fees? Ask Him! And if so, by who?

Oh, Danny took the moral high ground at the liquor by the drink meeting, you were there, and you heard the speech. Let’s see where this falls on DANNIES pick you sin list. Let’s see if knowing right from wrong and when to admit a mistake and follow the law of NC even registers. I bet this is not on his list, not even close to a right or wrong thing on the DANNY sin list.

Everyone that comes before Planning Board and Council is entitled to a fair (no-prejudgments) hearing. You yourself are in the same boat, people that stand before you at the planning board are entitled to a FAIR hearing. You and the council are there to do what’s best for the town. But, you know that.

I did like your last comment about the voters paying attention, I think they are, and I truly feel that they are listening and watching to the new council and what has been accomplished by them over the past months (NOTHING). And I firmly believe that Danny should enjoy his time on the council, because he and Shirley will be a one and out council term. PEOPLE are watching and listening.

5:40 AM  
Blogger Lee Godwin said...

Anonymous,
Let me get to answering your questions or at least the ones I have knowledge about.

1. You seem to have more information than me when it comes to a specific incident and Dan's mouth after the election, as well as others being involved???
What I know is that Dan ran a campaign with emphasis placed on too much "high density housing" and road congestion. There were others but those 2 items were main. Just so happens he and Shirley both were opposed to the high density that the downtown project was awarded by the previous council. By the way, its worth noting that what the Downtown LLC is seeking is concessions to the conditions placed upon it by the previously friendly council. NOTE: The current council can not place more or more difficult conditions upon the project. It can only become easier/less expensive for the developers. The current council can vote to leave the conditions exactly the way the previous council set them up. Not sure where developers rights are being violated if nothing different would be done.
Lets talk bias. The developers want you to believe that bias is bad and there is no place on the board for it. That is only partially true. The developers aren't going after bias in general, just a negative bias towards them. They are not talking about the supported bias on the board now or previous that existed and allowed certain things to happen. The playing field has changed due to the voters wanting something different..they wanted elected officials that would be harder on development and ease congestion. And yes all that is subject to change every two years. Rest assured the developers will make sure that their candidates have more than enough money to run a campaign.
Bias can go both ways. Though Dan is against high density...nothing that Harrell is asking for will affect the density outcome. They would like to take the voters completely out of the process.
2. You are completely correct about the so called "ambush". Dan did know the possibility existed and came prepared.
As far as help paying for fees?? You have more info than I and I can't talk to that subject at all....
3. LBTD has no place in this arguement...I don't agree with the vote that took place but that is besides the point. I am sure this will be talked about in the future once Duncan and Assoc. are finished with the ordinance rewrites.
4. The perfect answer is that anyone pleading their case should get an impartial hearing. The reality is that unless those hearing the case have lived in a box, never read a newspaper or have any information at all there is no way to eliminate bias. Good or bad. Each person has bias, preferences, likes and dislikes...that is what makes them who they are. You ulitimately hope they are able to put aside bias and emotion and look at the facts and make the best decision for the town.
Just for the record, your comment about this council not doing anything is totally backwards. They have accomplished quite a bit that may not be apparent in anything but the background. Whether, they accomplish anything that you believe to be important is immaterial...the fact is all of them are trying. Different personalities coming together in order to do what is right for the town...not everyone will be happy with this council, the previous council, or any future council. That is the nature of the beast. You have to look at the overall body of work.
To Date: only one item has come before this council from Harrell, it was passed unanomously. Dan negotiated and endorsed a Harrell project on Potter/Fincher and was the spokesperson for the citizens. He is against the density that is represented by the downtown project but besides the developer and the three people that passed the project...who is happy with that density???? As an elected official Dan has not set any precedence that would indicate he can't make an unbiased decision one that is right for the town. If you have other information please share.

8:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My information is no better than yours, but I get paid to do research and investigate people. I’m just asking questions, questions that I would think others are asking. I only know what happened at the meeting and what I read in the papers.

Just doesn’t add up, that’s all

Don’t see the need for all the lawyer stuff if it was all pre-election comments

Guess I’ll have to wait and see what happens over the next 30 days, S/B fun!

9:32 AM  
Blogger Lee Godwin said...

Anonymous,

I can't say if it will be fun or not. I believe that depending on the outcome it could have far reaching effects throughout the county and state. This is a test case by which others will be judged also. The addition of "bias" in a vague manner to the state statute leaves very big questions to be answered. Nothing this council has to answer about the conditions being heard can make it any tougher on Harrell and Company....ONLY EASIER!!!! Dan represents 1/5th of the vote and at last count doesn't constitute a majority. So what really is the issue here? I was led by your comments that you had special information dealing with this situation, but apparently not. Maybe you just can read between the lines better than most.

11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lee Godwin Wrote:

2. You are completely correct about the so called “ambush” Dan did know the possibility existed and came prepared. As far as help paying for Fees?? You have more info than I and I can’t talk to that subject at all…

Lee, I am more than a little confused by your statement: “Dan did know the possibility existed and came prepared…”

How do you know what Dan knew and when did you know about it. Was this discussed openly at a council meeting or are you privy to inside information. I’ve looked on the town’s minutes through their website and have found nothing that gives a hint about this.

My asking the question, “Who is paying for Schallenkamp’s attorney” is a fair question, and why aren’t you asking it? Why wouldn’t I ask it?

Would you be more incline to dig deeper if it were someone you did not support?

1:17 PM  
Blogger Lee Godwin said...

Anonymous,

Per your request I knew the night of the meeting when I saw the attorney in the front row. I hardly call that advance knowledge.
The question of payment for an attorney I fail to see why it would be pertinant to ask, I don't know why I care who is paying for the attorney...its a shame he needs one at all. At this point I don't think I would worry about payment even if its someone I don't necessarily support. I am not sure if this is something that would or should be any of my business. Obvisouly, you have to know something exists or else it wouldn't apparently bother you...share with us and then we will all know...I will reserve my outrage until I know something. As far as the dig deeper, I am not sure what there is to dig deeper about??? The main question for me is why a lawyer is needed at all? This shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Mr. Schallenkamp equals 1/5th of the board, has a right to his opinion just like all on the board. If he has to go for a negative bias though, its then right to make others go for the positive bias. When does it stop though??? This council can't make it any tougher on this developer than the previous board did. They can only make it easier. So again, I'm sorry I don't share your concern over who if anyone besides Dan is paying for his attorney, at this point without knowing details its a non issue to me. If I had more details maybe it would be a concern...but since I don't speak to the man often...I can't say he confides in me.

11:51 AM  
Blogger Lee Godwin said...

Another good website to view this subject is
www.villagescribeonline.com

a good grassroots website out of Wesley Chapel...covers a lot of topics. You will need to use your own name however...they don't believe in an alias ability so as to hide identity.

8:10 PM  

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